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'Hinduism is an intellectual system, not religion'

By Indrajit Hazra
Hindustan Times
Friday, January 13, 2012

Encyclopedia of Hinduism
Editor-in-chief: Kapil Kapoor
Rupa
Rs. 21,000 for 11 volumes

Indraprasth aka New Delhi - Over a fabulous spread of home-made
vegetarian food, I was listening to Rajan Mehra, chairman, Rupa
Publications Group, telling me about, what he considers to be "the
most important publication" of his career. Coming from a publishing
house that has made its mark -- and anchors its business -- by
publishing best-selling 'chatpata' books by writers that most
famously include Chetan Bhagat, the 11-volume, 7,086-page
Encyclopedia of Hinduism, is clearly a radical departure.

In the old Rupa office in Daryaganj, old Delhi, Mehra tells me,
"Sometime in 2007, I was approached by LK Advani [Rupa published the
BJP leader's memoirs, My Country, My Life in 2008]. He told me about
a project that the India Heritage Research Foundation, involving some
2,000 scholars based all over the world, were conducting. These were
scholarly essays and notes on various aspects of Hinduism. Advani
asked me whether I would be interested in getting involved."

My hackles go up as soon as I hear about the BJP connection. Far too
many 'studies' on Hinduism out there are either religious textbooks
or are thinly disguised ideological propaganda. An encyclopedia of
Hinduism blessed by Advani sounded anything but a rigorous work of
scholarship. Wouldn't this be like Jyoti Basu encouraging a 'study'
on Marxism-Leninism?

Mehra proceeds to tell me the kind of 'professionalism' in the work
and workforce that went into the production of this giant compendium.
"A separate team was hired and it worked from 2008 to 2011 under the
editorship of Kapil Kapoor, former Jawaharlal Nehru University
professor, collating, editing and proof-reading each entry." He tells
me to take a look at the volumes and realise that, the encyclopedia
is as much about the various cultures and cultural offshoots of
Hinduism as it is about providing scholarly explanations about its
religious and ritualistic aspects that are part of our "samskar" of
which most people, practising Hindus included, no little about. "This
has nothing to do with any political Hindutva agenda," he adds.

Speaking to Kapil Kapoor, who took on the project before Mehra got
involved, I get the same pitch. He is more forthright and tells me
that "Hinduism isn't a religion, it's a powerful intellectual
system". The former JNU pro-vice chancellor and professor of English
who also taught comparative linguistics, says, "Hinduism has no
sacred text. It is a kind of manual for living based on ethical
materialism. It is also deeply and widely interpretative."

But keeping this 'make what you will of it' nature of Hinduism in
mind, I ask him whether this encyclopedia, an interpretation of
interpretations, is not going to open to criticisms both from those
who have a very firm view of 'Hinduism' in mind and from those who
see it as an exclusionary 'communal' enterprise? "Even most Brahmin
scholars don't know about most of the matters that they pass off as
'Hindu'. Like nuclear science, Hinduism is essentially a system of
knowledge and this encyclopedia attempts to explain various elements
for both the scholar as well as the student of ideas," says Kapoor.
He also points out that while the oral tradition has been a preferred
system of storage, enhancement and transmission of knowledge ("Why do
you think Indians take so easily and lovingly to the television
medium?"), putting this knowledge down in the written/readable text
makes it available to many more.

As for criticisms and counter-views, he says that in his introduction
he has welcomed readers to send in criticisms. "In such a vast
enterprise, there are bound to be omissions, mistakes and lapses. I
only hope that other scholars point them out so that the process of
knowledge collection is further filtered."

The proof of the pudding, of course, is in the eating. So it is to
the encyclopedia that I, a non-practising Hindu atheist, go to. The
format is straightforward and along the lines of Encyclopedia
Britannica. Starting from 'Abadhita-Jñana' in Volume 1 ("non-
contradictable knowledge...") to 'Zoroaster (Zarathustra)' ("the
founder of Zoroastrianism...) ten volumes later, the entries are
crisp, provide background and foreground, and come with a
bibliography (the entry on Abadhita-Jñana includes JF Staal's 1961
book, Advaita and Neoplatonism.

The production is excellent, as is the quality of images that are
scattered across the volumes. With entries that include the
'Dhammapada' (the main text of Theravada Buddhism), the 'Chipko
movement' (the organised environmental movement to resist the
destruction of forests in India'), as well as the 'Saura Mandala'
(solar system), clearly, this is an encyclopedia that doesn't define
'Hinduism' in any narrow, proselytising way.

There are many reference books that deal in a scholarly, non-
religious manner on Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and Sikhism. This
Encyclopedia of Hinduism fills a gap that was there for readers in
English who wish to pursue knowing about one of the most prevalent
thought and social systems. Despite the initial fears I had (of
shoddy production, dodgy scholarship, a hidden agenda, and an
introduction by Advani), this 11-volume encyclopedia is a startingly
good treasure trunk for any one interested in the history of ideas to
dip into.

More at:
http://books.hindustantimes.com/2012/01/%E2%80%98hinduism-is-an-intellectual-system-not-religion%E2%80%99/

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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As everyone knows, a goon is a bully or thug who terrorizes or tries
to do away with opposition.

"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri) <***@gmail.com>
tries his best to be a bully -- telling others what and when to post,
where to post and where not to post, deliberately publishing lies
about others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but fails
miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his lap dog Prem
Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah" <***@this.com>, and issues
*death threats* to people), is priming himself for conditions such as
stroke and heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <***@gmail.com> who displays
unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and the instigator who
posts as "Bholu" <***@hotmail.com>
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'Hinduism is an intellectual system, not religion'
By Indrajit Hazra
Hindustan Times
Friday, January 13, 2012
Encyclopedia of Hinduism
Editor-in-chief: Kapil Kapoor
Rupa
Rs. 21,000 for 11 volumes
Indraprasth aka New Delhi - Over a fabulous spread of home-made
vegetarian food, I was listening to Rajan Mehra, chairman, Rupa
Publications Group, telling me about, what he considers to be "the
most important publication" of his career. Coming from a publishing
house that has made its mark -- and anchors its business -- by
publishing best-selling 'chatpata' books by writers that most
famously include Chetan Bhagat, the 11-volume, 7,086-page
Encyclopedia of Hinduism, is clearly a radical departure.
In the old Rupa office in Daryaganj, old Delhi, Mehra tells me,
"Sometime in 2007, I was approached by LK Advani [Rupa published the
BJP leader's memoirs, My Country, My Life in 2008]. He told me about
a project that the India Heritage Research Foundation, involving some
2,000 scholars based all over the world, were conducting. These were
scholarly essays and notes on various aspects of Hinduism. Advani
asked me whether I would be interested in getting involved."
My hackles go up as soon as I hear about the BJP connection. Far too
many 'studies' on Hinduism out there are either religious textbooks
or are thinly disguised ideological propaganda. An encyclopedia of
Hinduism blessed by Advani sounded anything but a rigorous work of
scholarship. Wouldn't this be like Jyoti Basu encouraging a 'study'
on Marxism-Leninism?
Mehra proceeds to tell me the kind of 'professionalism' in the work
and workforce that went into the production of this giant compendium.
"A separate team was hired and it worked from 2008 to 2011 under the
editorship of Kapil Kapoor, former  Jawaharlal Nehru University
professor, collating, editing and proof-reading each entry." He tells
me to take a look at the volumes and realise that, the encyclopedia
is as much about the various cultures and cultural offshoots of
Hinduism as it is about providing scholarly explanations about its
religious and ritualistic aspects that are part of our "samskar" of
which most people, practising Hindus included, no little about. "This
has nothing to do with any political Hindutva agenda," he adds.
Speaking to Kapil Kapoor, who took on the project before Mehra got
involved, I get the same pitch. He is more forthright and tells me
that "Hinduism isn't a religion, it's a powerful intellectual
system". The former JNU pro-vice chancellor and professor of English
who also taught comparative linguistics, says, "Hinduism has no
sacred text. It is a kind of manual for living based on ethical
materialism. It is also deeply and widely interpretative."
But keeping this 'make what you will of it' nature of Hinduism in
mind, I ask him whether this encyclopedia, an interpretation of
interpretations, is not going to open to criticisms both from those
who have a very firm view of 'Hinduism' in mind and from those who
see it as an exclusionary 'communal' enterprise? "Even most Brahmin
scholars don't know about most of the matters that they pass off as
'Hindu'. Like nuclear science, Hinduism is essentially a system of
knowledge and this encyclopedia attempts to explain various elements
for both the scholar as well as the student of ideas," says Kapoor.
He also points out that while the oral tradition has been a preferred
system of storage, enhancement and transmission of knowledge ("Why do
you think Indians take so easily and lovingly to the television
medium?"), putting this knowledge down in the written/readable text
makes it available to many more.
As for criticisms and counter-views, he says that in his introduction
he has welcomed readers to send in criticisms. "In such a vast
enterprise, there are bound to be omissions, mistakes and lapses. I
only hope that other scholars point them out so that the process of
knowledge collection is further filtered."
The proof of the pudding, of course, is in the eating. So it is to
the encyclopedia that I, a non-practising Hindu atheist, go to. The
format is straightforward and along the lines of Encyclopedia
Britannica. Starting from 'Abadhita-Jñana' in Volume 1 ("non-
contradictable knowledge...") to 'Zoroaster (Zarathustra)' ("the
founder of Zoroastrianism...) ten volumes later, the entries are
crisp, provide background and foreground, and come with a
bibliography (the entry on Abadhita-Jñana includes JF Staal's 1961
book, Advaita and Neoplatonism.
The production is excellent, as is the quality of images that are
scattered across the volumes. With entries that include the
'Dhammapada' (the main text of Theravada Buddhism), the 'Chipko
movement' (the organised environmental movement to resist the
destruction of forests in India'), as well as the 'Saura Mandala'
(solar system), clearly, this is an encyclopedia that doesn't define
'Hinduism' in any narrow, proselytising way.
There are many reference books that deal in a scholarly, non-
religious manner on Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and Sikhism. This
Encyclopedia of Hinduism fills a gap that was there for readers in
English who wish to pursue knowing about one of the most prevalent
thought and social systems. Despite the initial fears I had (of
shoddy production, dodgy scholarship, a hidden agenda, and an
introduction by Advani), this 11-volume encyclopedia is a startingly
good treasure trunk for any one interested in the history of ideas to
dip into.
More at:http://books.hindustantimes.com/2012/01/%E2%80%98hinduism-is-an-intel...
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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tries his best to be a bully -- telling others what and when to post,
where to post and where not to post, deliberately publishing lies
about others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but fails
miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his lap dog Prem
*death threats* to people), is priming himself for conditions such as
stroke and heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and the instigator who
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Dhanyavaad !
Myself Mallu, Yourself?
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On 1/14/2012 8:58 PM, fanabba wrote:

Hinduism (sans kooky vaishnavite cults) is certainly an intellectual
system. However, it is beyond the comprehension of morons and frauds
like you, Lady Kaka, kamar roy, arah, Cuckoo Curry Ku, ...

Stick to dhanyavaads and padre porn, bloody git. You add nothing
intellectually to anything.
--
VB, Ubetjotushy
'ome=shanty

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A jihadi loon is someone like Jade Muckeraj.

"Jade Muckeraj" aka "The Old Cow of Hawaii" <***@fraudsrus.com>
tries her best to pretend she is a Hindu -- cutting and pasting, and
even doctoring what others post/write about Hindus/Hinduism on the
internet, deliberately pidginizing Sanskrit and providing wrong
translations, inventing brand new books in the Mahabharat (reducing it
to Muckabharat), stalking and abusing people who disagree with her by
hijacking their posts, and then cuts and pastes about Hindu ethics and
moans self-righteously about honesty -- and succeeds spectacularly in
convincing all, except other jihadi loons, that she is not a Hindu.
She is in fact a creepy jihadi loon, who thinks she owns the newsgroup
s.c.indian, and has absolutely no problem slandering anyone. As a
Indian citizen supposedly, she meddles in US political issues, and
advocates civil war in India.
and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
2012-01-15 18:19:01 UTC
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About goon 'Myself, Mallu. Yourself?' (V. Bhattathiri)
<***@gmail.com> and the goon's flunky and sexual pervert
Dayashankar M. Joshi 'DMJoshi' <***@gmail.com>
[Rakesh Tiwari, Satish Kumar write]

About the terrorist Goon Squad:

As everyone knows, a goon is a bully or thug who terrorizes or tries
to do away with opposition.

"Myself, Mallu. Yourself?" (V. Bhattathiri) <***@gmail.com>
tries his best to be a bully -- telling others what and when to post,
where to post and where not to post, deliberately publishing lies
about others, stalking and abusing them with hate speech -- but fails
miserably. He is really stressed out, and like his lap dog Prem
Thomas (who currently posts as "P. Rajah" <***@this.com>, and issues
*death threats* to people), is priming himself for conditions such as
stroke and heart disease. Others in the Goon Squad include
Dayashankar M. Joshi "DMJoshi" <***@gmail.com> who displays
unquestioning obedience to Goon Squad thugs, and the instigator who
posts as "Bholu" <***@hotmail.com>

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Sexual pervert Dayashankar Joshi

Take proven sexual pervert Dayashankar M. Joshi to see his
psychiatrist
Joshijee, what is you relationship with Harrow's =
Saeeda Khan?
Not that I remember unless she is your mother.
His Holeness Dayananda Joshi's memory wasn't notewort=
hy even at the
best of times. Now at 73, it may have become worse un=
less His Holeness
is indulging in subterfuge by feigning forgetfulness.
Saeeda Khan may have come to know His Holeness Dayash=
ankar Joshi
through Hansaben. Saeeda Khan and Hansa Joshi were bo=
th born and
brought up in East Africa.
How did your mother come to know me?
Stop hallucinating. Nobody's mother or sister wants to kn=
ow you.
Yours are dripping sticky on their =E0=A4=AB=E0=A5=81=E0=A4=
=A6=E0=A5=8D=E0=A4=A6=E0=A5=80s
You are already 73
And yet it is my =E0=A4=B2=E0=A5=8C=E0=A4=A1=E0=A4=BE that is o=
n your mind all your waking hours and
in your dreams.
Get a grip on yourself. Your catheter-ridden penis
How do you know of it if you did not suck it?
Your male nurse at Nothwick Park Hospital has been bad-mouthing your
catheter-ridden penis.
You are sucking his =E0=A4=B2=E0=A5=8C=E0=A4=A1=E0=A4=BE as well.
At 73, you do yourself no favor by indulging in such fantasies.
Without a course correction, you are certain to return to earth as a
cockroach in your next life.
If you are not ready for vanaprastha, try reading the Geeta. If you
try sincerely, you might be able to shake your mind off such unholy
dreams.
BTW, does Hansa Joshi know about your posts? Or do you do them behind
Hansaben's back? Be careful. If she ever comes to know of your dirty
posts, she might make you =C2=A0gulp down a bottle of drain cleaner to
cleanse you of filthy dreams.
This indeed is the real problem for DM Joshi - he is endangering not
just his future in th next world but even his present in this world.
Hansa Joshi is unlikely to take kindly to DM Joshi if she finds out
what he has been posting behind her back. And, then, yes, Hansaben
might very well force drain cleaner into DM Joshi to unclog the filthy
dreams bottled inside him.
Take proven sexual pervert Dayashankar M. Joshi to see his psychiatrist

Dayashankar has proven himself to be quite vulgar of mind and
expression. He has also demonstrated that he publishes lies as well
as malicious defamataion based on lies.

One may wish to contact Deep Joshi, Hansaben Joshi, Vikesh Khakhar
and Rashmi Khakhar about making sure that sexual pervert Dayashankar
M. Joshi gets to see his psychiatrist regularly. Perhaps they can
help.

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

[ Subject: Re: His Holeness Dayashankar M. Joshi's addiction and fear
[ of withdrawal pains
[ From: Rakesh <***@yahoo.com>
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.gujarati,
[ soc.culture.indian.marathi,soc.culture.indian.delhi,
[ soc.culture.indian.kerala
[ Message-ID: <edef513e-1aa4-4e48-9ce2-
[ ***@g3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>
[ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:25:18 -0700 (PDT)
[
[
[ On Jul 19, 12:25 pm, Satish Kumar <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
[[ On Jul 17, 12:05 am, DMJoshi <***@gmail.com> wrote:
[[ On 7/18/2011 4:10 AM, DMJoshi wrote:
[[
[[[[ When Bhadve do Bhadwai what do they sell after they have
[[[[ oversold their own holes?
[[
[[[ You are hankering for that for your mother and sisters no doubt.
[[
[[ His Holeness Dayashankar M. Joshi's addiction and fear of withdrawal
[[ pains:
[[
[[ His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi is addicted to fantasies about
[[ committing "Back Hole Balaatkaar" upon fellow netizens, their mothers
[[ and their sisters. He needs psychiatric care. But so afraid is His
[[ Holeness Dayashankar Joshi about withdrawal pains from trying to kick
[[ his addiction that he would rather jump off the Kenton Bridge or gulp
[[ down a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner than seek psychiatric care.
[[
[[ If His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi is not comfortable with his court-
[[ appointed psychiatrist at Cygnet Hospital, he should heed Hansa
[[ Joshi's advice to go to another psychiatrist. Unfortunately, Hansa
[[ Joshi is yet to persuade His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi to pay a visit
[[ to a psychiatrist at the Northwick Park Hospital which has an
[[ excellent psychiatric ward.
[
[ What does Harrow woman Saeeda Khan have to do with DM Joshi? Is she
[ Joshijee's employer? Psychiatrist? Nurse? Landlord ?
[
[ Has Joshijee been day dreaming about "mounting" Saeeda Khan's "back
[ hole" as well?
[
[ Joshijee needs to overcome his fear of withdrawl pain in coping with
[ his mental addiction to "back holes". The sooner he seeks psychiatric
[ help the better.
[
[ Hansa Joshi is to be commended for her efforts to get Joshijee
[ admitted into Northwick Park Hospital. Good psychiatric care would
[ make a big difference to the quality of whaever is left of 73-year
[ Joshijee's life.
[
[ Hansaben has my sympathies. She is in my thoughts and prayers. May
[ her efforts make a difference in Joshijee' remaining life.
[
[ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[
[ Subject: Re: His Holeness Dayashankar M. Joshi's addiction and fear
[ of withdrawal pains
[ From: Satish Kumar <***@yahoo.com>
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.gujarati,
[ soc.culture.indian.marathi,soc.culture.indian.delhi,
[ soc.culture.indian.kerala
[ Message-ID: <88d0e589-e837-4174-88b4-
[ ***@j14g2000prn.googlegroups.com>
[ Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:33:04 -0700 (PDT)
[
[
[ On Jul 19, 2:25 pm, Rakesh <***@yahoo.com[ wrote:
[[ On Jul 19, 12:25 pm, Satish Kumar <***@yahoo.com[ wrote:
[[
[[[ On Jul 17, 12:05 am, DMJoshi <***@gmail.com[ wrote:
[[[ On 7/18/2011 4:10 AM, DMJoshi wrote:
[[
[[[[[ When Bhadve do Bhadwai what do they sell after they have
[[[[[ oversold their own holes?
[[
[[[[ You are hankering for that for your mother and sisters no doubt.
[[
[[[ His Holeness Dayashankar M. Joshi's addiction and fear of withdrawal
[[[ pains:
[[
[[[ His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi is addicted to fantasies about
[[[ committing "Back Hole Balaatkaar" upon fellow netizens, their mothers
[[[ and their sisters. He needs psychiatric care. But so afraid is His
[[[ Holeness Dayashankar Joshi about withdrawal pains from trying to kick
[[[ his addiction that he would rather jump off the Kenton Bridge or gulp
[[[ down a bottle of toilet bowl cleaner than seek psychiatric care.
[[
[[[ If His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi is not comfortable with his court-
[[[ appointed psychiatrist at Cygnet Hospital, he should heed Hansa
[[[ Joshi's advice to go to another psychiatrist. Unfortunately, Hansa
[[[ Joshi is yet to persuade His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi to pay a visit
[[[ to a psychiatrist at the Northwick Park Hospital which has an
[[[ excellent psychiatric ward.
[[
[[ What does Harrow woman Saeeda Khan have to do with DM Joshi? Is she
[[ Joshijee's employer? Psychiatrist? Nurse? Landlord ?
[[
[[ Has Joshijee been day dreaming about "mounting" Saeeda Khan's "back
[[ hole" as well?
[[
[[ Joshijee needs to overcome his fear of withdrawl pain in coping with
[[ his mental addiction to "back holes". The sooner he seeks psychiatric
[[ help the better.
[[
[[ Hansa Joshi is to be commended for her efforts to get Joshijee
[[ admitted into Northwick Park Hospital. Good psychiatric care would
[[ make a big difference to the quality of whaever is left of 73-year
[[ Joshijee's life.
[[
[[ Hansaben has my sympathies. She is in my thoughts and prayers. May
[[ her efforts make a difference in Joshijee' remaining life.
[
[ Saeeda Khan may have come to know His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi
[ through Hansaben. Saeeda Khan and Hansa Joshi were both born and
[ brought up in East Africa. Now Saeeda Khan and Dayashankar Joshi are
[ both in trouble with the law. Here's a post by His Holeness
[ Dayashankar Joshi on Saeeda Lhan:
[
[ On Oct 26 2010, 2:16 am, DMJoshi <***@gmail.com[ wrote:
[[ On Sep 14, 8:10 am, DMJoshi <***@gmail.com[ wrote:
[[
[[[http://www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/8388381.Not_guilty_plea_in_first_mo...
[[
[[[ Wonder from where on Indian subcontinent her ancestors migrated to
[[[ Tanzania(Tangnika)
[[
[[ She is going to be prosecuted
[[
[[ http://www.harrowtimes.co.uk/news/8473827.Harrow_woman_to_face_trial_...
[[
[[ There was a Gujarati Hindu woman very likey from Harow or Brent who
[[ was jailed for long period for the same crime.
[
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On Jul 20, 1:47 am, "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?"
On Jul 20, 1:19 am, "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?"
On Jul 18, 5:04 am, "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?"
On Jul 18, 11:59 am, "Myself, Mallu. Yourself?"
Bhadave ho ya naheen, inki maa-behen se kya taalluq?
When Bhadve do Bhadwai what do they sell after they have
oversold their own holes?
Namaaloom.
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Based on this rant of yours, all I can say is "pot-kettle-
black." No one ever compelled you to reply to Joshiji's posts,
esp. if you did not think highly of them in the first place.
Tiwary might not care much for your "whiter than pot-kettle"
posturing either. But I suspect he might consider sympathizing
with you if His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi comments on "back
holes" that are closer to you than were in this case..
Bollocks! I do not give Joshiji the opportunity to make such
comments to me. You write provocatively, you'll get your
comeuppance. Spare me the crap.
Not impressed with your rant. Look through His Holeness
Dayashankar Joshi's posts in this thread. If "writing
provocatively" is the excuse, then His Holeness Dayashankar
Joshi has nothing to complain about - he had asked for what
he got from Tiwary.
Tiwary himself has commented on this in previous posts - by
selectively taking exception to posts by His Holeness dayashankar
Joshi's victims, you are either unwittingly or deliberately
encouraging him to make "such comments".
Precisely.
Satishjee, I can quite understand why you are unimpressed by Shriman
Bhattahiri's show of indignant outrage.
And, anyway, Shriman Bhattahiri lives in a glass house. His posts are
seldom anything other than of the "provocative/patronizing" genre. But
that should never be an acceptable excuse for anyone to indulge in
fantasies about Shriman Bhattahiri's "back hole" or that of his mother
and sisters. I can't quite fathom why Sriman Bhattahiri has taken to
upholding His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi's penchant for sodomy-laced
vulgar outbursts. Does he hope to get named in Joshijee's will ?!
Shriman Bhattahiri may have his own reasons to harbor tender feelings
for His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi. But he does His Holeness
absolutely no good (and only harm) by selectively expressing distaste
for posts by His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi's victims. It makes His
Holeness conclude that it is cute to "react viscerally" to
"provocations" and "patronizing replies" by indulging in vulgar
outbursts about sodomizing the "enemy" and his mother and sisters as
well. Unwittingly or deliberately, Shriman Bhattahiri is encouraging
His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi to continue to indulge in his fantasies
about "back holes".
Shriman Bhattahiri's expression of indignant outrage is at best a case
of naivety. At worst, Shriman Bhattahiri is acting agent provocateur
egging on His Holeness beyond the "Hole-y Rekha" so that he can enjoy
the show from the sideline. With friends like Shriman Bhattahiri, His
Holeness Dayashankar Joshi has little hope of recovery from his mental
disorder.
Far better (and kinder) if His Holeness Dayashankar Joshi is told
that he should never ever skip sessions with his psychiatrist. Far
better (and kinder) to encourage His Holeness to heed Hansa Joshi's
entreaties to seek treatment at the psychiatric ward at Northwick Park
Hospital if he is really all that unhappy with his court appointed
psychiatrist at Cygnet Hospital.
Shriman Bhattahiri does His Holeness DM Joshi no favor but a great
deal of harm by feeding into his illusion that he is cute when he
spews "back holes,, mothers and sisters".
Which court appointed a psychiatrist for Dayashankar, why and when?

Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti

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'Hinduism is an intellectual system, not religion'
By Indrajit Hazra
Hindustan Times
Friday, January 13, 2012
Encyclopedia of Hinduism
Editor-in-chief: Kapil Kapoor
Rupa
Rs. 21,000 for 11 volumes
Indraprasth aka New Delhi - Over a fabulous spread of home-made
vegetarian food, I was listening to Rajan Mehra, chairman, Rupa
Publications Group, telling me about, what he considers to be "the
most important publication" of his career. Coming from a publishing
house that has made its mark -- and anchors its business -- by
publishing best-selling 'chatpata' books by writers that most
famously include Chetan Bhagat, the 11-volume, 7,086-page
Encyclopedia of Hinduism, is clearly a radical departure.
In the old Rupa office in Daryaganj, old Delhi, Mehra tells me,
"Sometime in 2007, I was approached by LK Advani [Rupa published the
BJP leader's memoirs, My Country, My Life in 2008]. He told me about
a project that the India Heritage Research Foundation, involving some
2,000 scholars based all over the world, were conducting. These were
scholarly essays and notes on various aspects of Hinduism. Advani
asked me whether I would be interested in getting involved."
My hackles go up as soon as I hear about the BJP connection. Far too
many 'studies' on Hinduism out there are either religious textbooks
or are thinly disguised ideological propaganda. An encyclopedia of
Hinduism blessed by Advani sounded anything but a rigorous work of
scholarship. Wouldn't this be like Jyoti Basu encouraging a 'study'
on Marxism-Leninism?
Mehra proceeds to tell me the kind of 'professionalism' in the work
and workforce that went into the production of this giant compendium.
"A separate team was hired and it worked from 2008 to 2011 under the
editorship of Kapil Kapoor, former Jawaharlal Nehru University
professor, collating, editing and proof-reading each entry." He tells
me to take a look at the volumes and realise that, the encyclopedia
is as much about the various cultures and cultural offshoots of
Hinduism as it is about providing scholarly explanations about its
religious and ritualistic aspects that are part of our "samskar" of
which most people, practising Hindus included, no little about. "This
has nothing to do with any political Hindutva agenda," he adds.
Speaking to Kapil Kapoor, who took on the project before Mehra got
involved, I get the same pitch. He is more forthright and tells me
that "Hinduism isn't a religion, it's a powerful intellectual
system". The former JNU pro-vice chancellor and professor of English
who also taught comparative linguistics, says, "Hinduism has no
sacred text. It is a kind of manual for living based on ethical
materialism. It is also deeply and widely interpretative."
But keeping this 'make what you will of it' nature of Hinduism in
mind, I ask him whether this encyclopedia, an interpretation of
interpretations, is not going to open to criticisms both from those
who have a very firm view of 'Hinduism' in mind and from those who
see it as an exclusionary 'communal' enterprise? "Even most Brahmin
scholars don't know about most of the matters that they pass off as
'Hindu'. Like nuclear science, Hinduism is essentially a system of
knowledge and this encyclopedia attempts to explain various elements
for both the scholar as well as the student of ideas," says Kapoor.
He also points out that while the oral tradition has been a preferred
system of storage, enhancement and transmission of knowledge ("Why do
you think Indians take so easily and lovingly to the television
medium?"), putting this knowledge down in the written/readable text
makes it available to many more.
As for criticisms and counter-views, he says that in his introduction
he has welcomed readers to send in criticisms. "In such a vast
enterprise, there are bound to be omissions, mistakes and lapses. I
only hope that other scholars point them out so that the process of
knowledge collection is further filtered."
The proof of the pudding, of course, is in the eating. So it is to
the encyclopedia that I, a non-practising Hindu atheist, go to. The
format is straightforward and along the lines of Encyclopedia
Britannica. Starting from 'Abadhita-Jñana' in Volume 1 ("non-
contradictable knowledge...") to 'Zoroaster (Zarathustra)' ("the
founder of Zoroastrianism...) ten volumes later, the entries are
crisp, provide background and foreground, and come with a
bibliography (the entry on Abadhita-Jñana includes JF Staal's 1961
book, Advaita and Neoplatonism.
The production is excellent, as is the quality of images that are
scattered across the volumes. With entries that include the
'Dhammapada' (the main text of Theravada Buddhism), the 'Chipko
movement' (the organised environmental movement to resist the
destruction of forests in India'), as well as the 'Saura Mandala'
(solar system), clearly, this is an encyclopedia that doesn't define
'Hinduism' in any narrow, proselytising way.
There are many reference books that deal in a scholarly, non-
religious manner on Christianity, Islam, Buddhism and Sikhism. This
Encyclopedia of Hinduism fills a gap that was there for readers in
English who wish to pursue knowing about one of the most prevalent
thought and social systems. Despite the initial fears I had (of
shoddy production, dodgy scholarship, a hidden agenda, and an
introduction by Advani), this 11-volume encyclopedia is a startingly
good treasure trunk for any one interested in the history of ideas to
dip into.
http://books.hindustantimes.com/2012/01/%E2%80%98hinduism-is-an-intellectual-s
ystem-not-religion%E2%80%99/
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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"A system of knowledge", says the article.

If this is the case and it is not a religion then it is subject to the same
constraints and rules of any such system.

How is it doing by this measure?

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